Defining “Upstate” in the Suburbs: A Local Perspective

The debate over where “Upstate” begins continues to divide suburban residents near New York City. Many locals, especially in Westchester County and Yonkers, contest traditional distinctions, asserting that the boundaries are more fluid than commonly thought.

On a recent visit to Yonkers, situated on the edge of the Bronx, residents expressed mixed views. Reaghan Giannello, a Yonkers resident, explained, “Depending on where I am in my apartment, GPS might show New York City or Yonkers. We’re close enough to the city that it doesn’t feel separate, but technically, we’re not in the city.” She added that her perceptions vary, with some considering anything beyond White Plains as upstate, given the change in scenery and vibe.

Local business owners and residents further emphasize that “upstate” isn’t just a matter of geography. James Flynn of McKeon’s Bar and Restaurant pointed out that once you reach Albany—the state capital—you’re considered downstate. Steve Ugrinag, owner of Angelo’s Pizza, bluntly stated, “You can call it anything, but it’s not upstate.”

Longtime residents like Mili Diaz, who grew up in NYC, recalled that crossing the bridge or heading past Inwood felt like entering a different world. Now, Diaz considers White Plains, just 15 miles from Yonkers, as part of upstate territory. She highlighted that the perception of upstate varies significantly depending on the individual’s experience and local context.

Rapper LYPHE, a White Plains native now based in Florida, famously critiqued the stigma around Westchester being classified as upstate. In a rap, he referenced farms around Albany and contrasted them with city views, emphasizing the regional divide and defending Westchester’s identity as a true part of New York City’s extended landscape.

Events and music series founder Jon Chattman echoed this sentiment, joking that upstate is characterized by trees, mountains, and spotty cell service. He dismissed the notion that only the city and Long Island are downstate, asserting that regions like Lake George are also genuinely upstate.

Ultimately, the line remains blurry, with residents feeling connected to both city and suburban identities, challenging traditional borders and definitions.